I hold myself to high standards. These standards bleed over onto the people around me, especially if they are fellow officers in my guild. Remember-I am the recruitment officer. I want to polish up the turd delightfully quirky mix of people that is my guild so that I can “sell” it to other people.
Don’t say the words “it’s just Naxx”. Just don’t. It’s not “just Naxx”, it’s several hours of my time. It’s several hours of 24 other people’s time, and this isn’t a pug-this is a guild run. With several new guildies we would like to retain, which means, don’t be fucking lazy. You weren’t listening to vent and had music turned up? The requests for buffs were put in raid chat, several times. You were sitting there playing with your dick and hitting the Holy Light button and not reading raid? You have Pally Power-use it. Is that box not the right color? Click on it, and it’ll do the buffs for you! Don’t laze your way through a class and spec I know and then act surprised when I call you on it. People are rabid about their paladin buffs. Rabid. Don’t want to waste reagents when all of the melee dies on every trash pull in the Military Quarter? Right click does baby buffs! Holy shit!
You do realize that they are yelling at me for buffs because I am also a paladin, right? And that when I have my buffs properly given out I don’t want to be nagged constantly because someone think I’m your fucking mother?
My position in this guild is not “Chief Nag”, here to make the rest of you do your jobs, even when your job is just not being a lazy ass paladin. And don’t pull the “Well FINE just replace me and I’ll go PvP” bullshit ’cause that’s real fucking mature.
Speaking of maturity: I will not copy and paste this into the officer forums…I will not copy and paste this into the officer forums…I will not copy and paste this into the officer forums…
I will just post calling Randy a douche
Now I must go post a short, polite, reasoned explantion why I was so irritated last night…
#1 by B Rab on July 10, 2009 - 10:02 am
It’s, uhh, just naxx? Kidding, I completely understand. Lately, some old school players we had in our guild have started playing again and getting to 80, so we ran a couple naxx’s to get them closer to being able to step into our 25 man Ulduar runs, or even start a 10 man Ulduar run of their own. It seems like the second people step foot in naxx anymore, their jaw drops and the drool starts flowing directly from their mouth to their keyboard while they space out…Sucks d, I feel you on this one.
#2 by Valkure on July 10, 2009 - 10:29 am
You put it best with “It’s not “just Naxx”, it’s several hours of my time. It’s several hours of 24 other people’s time..”
That right there should end all whining and complaining regarding “it’s just naxx”. If they can’t treat others the way they would want to be treated they can gtfo, imo.
#3 by Maebius on July 10, 2009 - 10:36 am
My little ragtag casual guild of 20-odd people is JUST stepping into Ulduar and still running Naxx. Heck, I ran it last night with a few people new to the instance (heck, new to game even with first 80 evar). Same thing, one of the uber-geared was obviously lazy, impatient during fight descriptions, etc. Wow. It was horrid.
I feel your pain. It is never EVER ‘just an instance’ regardless of the instance. Sheesh.
#4 by Kestrel on July 10, 2009 - 11:00 am
I’m not a Raid Leader; I’m not even an officer anymore (guild merger last month). But I would SO QUICKLY “Remove from raid” anyone who gave me the “Fine; replace me and I’ll go PvP” bullshit. And I’d do it even if it’s the Main Tank, Main Healer, Main DPS…I don’t care, and I don’t care if we don’t have a replacement. NO ONE is better than the group. (Unfortunately, in my new guild, we have a couple people who believe they are. It could get interesting.)
#5 by Yunk on July 10, 2009 - 11:27 am
Wait paladins have buffs?
I am getting really sick of people with that attitude in my guild. We’ve expanded to run 25s and it seems we’ve had to lower our standards. People are just not prepared, lazy, and think it’s ok because we’re not “hardcore”. Actually it’s just as important, we all have families and responsibilities, and if they guy with kids has only 3 hours, he sure doesn’t want to waste the first 30 minutes waiting for your lazy ass.
#6 by Dave on July 10, 2009 - 12:09 pm
And people wonder why I don’t raid.
#7 by Ten'nen on July 10, 2009 - 12:53 pm
“It’s not “just Naxx”, it’s several hours of my time.”
“People are rabid about their paladin buffs. Rabid.”
It’s all too true…if you forget to give the healers Wisdom, prepare to not be healed. It’s that simple. People always think that you either have to be super hard-core and raid in mostly silence, or you have to work really hard to be silly in order to seem like a laid-back, fun guild. They missed the part where you can concentrate on the raid and do your job correctly (by watching for missing buffs, watching threat, and making sure people understand the fight) because guess what: it’s a heck of a lot more fun to get through the instance with few to no wipes. Amazingly, it’s faster as well.
What a novel concept.
#8 by kyrilean on July 10, 2009 - 1:11 pm
Well I suppose I don’t feel so emo now, but that’s pretty much the gist of my bitching. Poor Amber has to listen to it from me though! :P
#9 by Firespirit on July 10, 2009 - 3:57 pm
People around me wonder why I take raiding so seriously (be it in guild, or IRL). This is why. I have only ever earned the “Honorary huntard” title in our raid once (HA, I knew I forgot to repair!), and vowed never to have it again.
I apprecaite that it *is* just a game. But it *is* also real time and money (in subscrip time) to at least 9 other people. And I play that *game* with them. I dont want them pissed at me.
When I bring it, I bring it. And of course, its a nice bonus when I out dps and piss of the uber geared lock on my team, and steal his spot at the top of the dps charts… That, That is only a bonus :)
#10 by Troutwort on July 10, 2009 - 4:25 pm
Your rage seems justified. But I’m gonna go with Dave on this one, this is another reason why I don’t “raid guild” because: my time x idiot raiders + good loot < enjoyment^my time
#11 by Kisli on July 10, 2009 - 5:39 pm
I totally agree…to an extent.
If your melee is dying every pull on the Military Quarter, perhaps you should mark the ‘GUISE THAT WHIRLWIND OHAI’ with big colorful raid marks and mention that they will more than likely…whirlwind. And the melee will die, essentially not boosting their meters they were worried about anyway.
I dislike lazy paladins (I play a pally myself) but I do have to point out I don’t enjoy wasting multiple global cooldowns on idiots who aren’t intelligent enough to know the pulls…or learn from dying on the first few XD.
#12 by Brian on July 12, 2009 - 12:32 am
As usual, you’ve hit on my three big pet peeves about raiding.
1) It may be “just Naxx”, but if I’m noticing your slacker attitude in Naxx, I’m going to have serious doubts about your ability to run Ulduar or any other more difficult content without dragging the whole raid down. I have met very few people who suck in farm content and are awesome in progression content, chances are good that Joe Huntard is not one of those people. “It’s just Naxx” is more likely an excuse than a reason…
2) Whether you’re running a 5-man heroic or 25-man Ulduar, you’re playing with other people…if you’re doing something that negatively impacts the group, you’re being a jackass…no exceptions. If you make people wait while you do something you don’t need to be doing before the run, you’re being an asshole. There is nobody in this game important enough to make 4 or more people wait for their lazy ass.
3) Paladins have some of the most useful buffs in the game, why the hell can’t they figure out how to give them out? The VAST majority of the paladins I’ve run into need to be prodded multiple times before they give out buffs at all, and half the time it’s the wrong buffs. I understand the first time I have to tell a paladin that I’m a feral druid and I want might, not wisdom…but why the hell do I have to do it the next 3 or 4 times I get buffed? There is no other class in the game that so consistently fails at buffing than paladins, and while I admit that their buffs are more complex than those of other classes…they have a dedicated addon to help them out…wtf are they doing?
Basically I think all those problems boil down to the same issue. WoW is a social game, yet many of the people playing it behave like there aren’t real people behind the toons they see in the game. Why that’s true is a mystery to me. Up until WoW, I played almost exclusively single player games…and the difference couldn’t be more pronounced…so why does everyone else have trouble with it?
#13 by Miyow on July 12, 2009 - 8:18 pm
I wanna raid with you Amber <3
#14 by Twonationarmy on July 13, 2009 - 10:01 am
I also want to raid with you Amber!
Paladin buffs are a curse and a plague. I was having a very serious moment at the end of BC about whether or not I could keep playing the game in the next expansion as a paladin and it was due to the horror of paladin buffing alone.
“Can I get…?”
No you cannot dammit, I’m doing blessing of x, not blessing of x, talk to the other paladin!
“Hey, can I get…?”
No you… oh look, death knight. Huh. That looks much better.
#15 by Ambrosyne on July 13, 2009 - 10:32 am
I'm glad SOMEONE wants to raid with me…ha.
#16 by Zalgosh on July 22, 2009 - 9:33 am
My brother hit 80 and got well geared very quickly, and for months has been saying ‘it’s just naxx.’ However, because of this, he won’t go unless his guild really needs him to be there. He doesn’t need anything, except a new weapon (he still has the H HoL weapon, even though the rest of his gear is Naxx 25 or better, lol) so he prefers if someone else can go and actually get drops.
That being said, even though he doesn’t want to go and thinks its easy, when his guild needs him to go, he rocks the house and pumps out 4+k dps. Sure, he doesn’t flask or use his own buff food, but he still plays at the top of his game.
#17 by Adlib on October 8, 2009 - 3:13 pm
People are rabid about their paladin buffs. Rabid.
This. I used to have one pally friend who would get so irritated at people he would actively not heal them. Okay, maybe not the best way to take out his frustration, but I can’t believe how people get about paladin buffs. Holy crap. At least now LWs can do it via drums or whatever.
My peeve is when a certain pally leaves up crusader aura and we’re ready to start a fight. Not too helpful.