Posts Tagged guild progress
Random conversation with Josh in Target:
“So, I was talking with Steve at work, and he was wondering if you would go holy again.”
“Fuck no! Has he forgotten that I hated it?”
“I don’t think so.”
“Ha! Ha! Hahahahahaha! Besides, the crack elves would see. No.”
But on to that pattern thing I mentioned in the title. BoO has one when it comes to boss progression. I find it funny, myself.
1) Meet new boss. HI NEW BOSS.
2) Wipe. And wipe and wipe and wipe.
3) Make MASSIVE PROGRESS! OMG, we could kill him tonight!
4) On the very next attempt, someone will flub something stupid early on and we wipe quick.
5) Shit goes downhill from there and the raid is called.
Then, the NEXT TIME we walk in there:
1) Hi boss, LOLOLOLOL HERE’S YOUR BALLS BACK WE TAKE LOOT NOW KTHX.
There may be one wipe in there if we shifted too many new people in, but generally, after a day or so off we come back like a fucking freight train. I’ve seen it happen more than once, the most notable case being Freya. She stonewalled us and then a couple of WEEKS later when we finally got back to her, we one shot her. Bwuh?
Obviously I’ll be posting a Mimiron victory shot after tonight’s raid, yes? Assuming Atropus remembers that tank +mine = bad…
“O hai new content we’re only just now getting around to seeing how are you-”
“-doin…alright…um, that wasn’t so nice. Hey, what happened to my mana bar?”
“Alright, really now. WTF debuffs? Did you seriously just hit all of the healers at the same time? FUCK!”
“Alright so now they’re going under and…okay…okay…so far so goo-OH MY GOD WHY ARE YOU DRAGGING IT THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE ROOM WHERE WE ARE ALL STANDING? FRONTAL CONE WRECKZ FRONTAL CONE PLEASE TO NOT BE-OH GOD OH GOD WHY IS YOUR VENT NOT WORKING.”
“Okay once agai-”
“WHAT THE FUCK HUNTERS OMEN ISN’T THERE TO LOOK PRETTY WHY THE FUCK CAN’T YOU FEIGN! WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT’S ON COOLDOWN?! WELL FOR FUCKS SAKE WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?! AUTOSHOT OR SOMETHING. THE METER IS THERE SO YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR DAMNED AGGRO NOW JUST KEEP PEW PEWING UNTIL YOU PULL. ALSO FEIGN BEFORE YOU GET AGGRO SO THE BOSS ISN’T SHIFTING POSITIONS YOU COMPLETE AND UTTER FAILURE OF A HUNTER. WTF IN MY DAY I KNEW HOW TO HUNTER AND DIDN’T PULL FUCKING AGGRO WHILE STILL TOPPING DPS CHARTS.”
“FUCK YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL YOU GODS BE DAMNED WORMS.”
“Oh hey, look, it’s the third guy! There’s only like half the raid left, and 2 of those are healers, but we can pluck him off eventually…la la la la…la la la la….la la la la…OH FUCK HE WENT BIG AND RED OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK.”
“…see you all tomorrow, guys.”
(We made good progress, and I’m actually proud of our off-night attempts. But seriously, WTF hunters. Also, kudos to Oasic, one of our much loved resident holy priests. See, Oasic, I can blog about you without you being a douche! Especially if you continue to stand in the way of boss charges and die. ;) Your death was a lesson to us all!)
The Amber is displeased. Why is the Amber displeased? Because I hate people getting their panties in a twist and ragequitting without, you know, discussing shit. When we post proposed changes on the officer forum and ask for your input, then we want your input. We do NOT want you to hike up your skirts, scream that you don’t like us anymore, and leave.
You want to do that, then fine, get your childish ass out of my mother fucking guild and good riddance. If you truly don’t like the way things are going, why don’t you sit down and discuss it? Concerned about new guild ranks diminishing the importance of people who don’t raid? Well, how about some alternatives? Where’s your ideas? I want your ideas. I don’t want your poorly typed out LJ-style flounce post.
We are not “ruining a social guild”. We are trying to shape up a raiding guild. Raiding, see that? Raaaaiiiiidiiiiiing. Raiding requires a certain amount of skill and discipline. Oh, and time investment. Do we have people in the guild who can’t play worth a shit? Well, yeah. But they’re friends and we love them and they hang out and occasionally we shove purples at them from a farming run. Do we have people in the guild who are skilled but can hardly run with us? Yes, and we miss them terribly, and squee with joy every time they DO get the chance to join us. Do we have good people who ARE here all the time, and are thus the raiding core? ….why yes, yes we do. We have and love all those kinds of people and we always have and we always will. Do the casuals really need full bank access to our raiding flasks and a Core Raider title? …no.
One of the most sissy of the flouncers actually told us that we didn’t have a good raiding core to build from. Wait, what? What the hell am I, chopped liver? Kyr? Zoja? Mach? Harryotter? Huntres? All those other people who do their job and do it well? And since when were we a social guild? What the fuck were we doing in Burning Crusade, having tea parties in SSC? I don’t remember tea parties, I remember tanking some mother fucking bosses and winning some mother fucking loot in a MOTHER FUCKING RAIDING GUILD.
So excuse me, I’m going to go recruit some more RAIDERS for our RAIDING GUILD. Then we are going to run some RAIDS. During said RAIDS, we are going to be SOCIAL and make fun of Mikata because it’s easy, and Harryotter is going to die and we’ll lol at him, and Zoja is going to pick on Huntres, and it’ll be fun. WHILE RAIDING.
So congrats, two officers who seldom participated anyway. Your previous contributions to the guild that once earned you your titles are missed, but shall no longer carry you through this expansion. You flounced. Now those of us who actually do the work these days will…uh…continue doing the work. So uh…nothing has changed, really, except that we’ll proceed with shifting the guild ranks and bank permissions with fewer badly typed rage posts on the forums*.
*My rage posts involve capital letters and spell check.
…and like, either talk about how we ran Ulduar 25 last night and made some progress and how I tanked healed and didn’t really have many mana issues…
…or I was going to QQ about how Ron left the guild (again, for good this time) and how Yarp left the same night, leaving my healing core decidedly light…
…and I actually had started a post on Razorscale strats, but when 3 hours passed and I’d written two paragraphs because of a “project” at work, I decide to give up.
Content tomorrow. For now: pictures!
In case you had any doubt that I was a dork…let me just remove that for you.
And I really do love, love, love having flying on my 73 hunter:
You haven’t had a levitate SS in entirely too long. Also, note Lyr’s new robe, which looks exactly like her old one but in different colors!
This mount is totally fucking awesome looking and I love it to death, even if…er…it doesn’t know how to walk.
Here at BoO, we QQ with sarcasm:
And I did say we made progress, right? Hells yeah, killshot!
Also, guild first kill of Iron Council 25, though no one cared to pose for this picture…so we’ll pretend I solo’d it.
la la la…wait, what?
That’s it, it can be t10 and we’re running Uldaur until this mother fucker is finished, y’hear me?
We started the raid really late last night, in large part because our hunter has this strange obsession with doing things OUTSIDE. WTF, soccer? We only have one hunter in our raiding core right now, and he’s our only replen, so…yeah.
Needless to say that by the time he showed up, we were ready to go!
Thorim took a few tries. We ended up going for a 4/6 split-DK tank, pally healer, shaman and kitty down the gauntlet, everyone else in the arena. We threw the shaman and kitty down the hall to help control the Acolyte mods that gave us so much trouble before. That second mini boss can be a real bitch.
Poor Ky had been dragged in on his priest…as holy, so we were a lovely pair of nubs that night. It took a bit before we figured out positioning and stopped making Fail Angels. In the end we stood on the edge of the inner circle, and healed through the hammer’s damage on everything. For our final, successful attempt I sneakily went back disc, and all was right in my world. Honestly, Thorim himself is a chump. The trick is just getting to him!
And then…then it was time for Freya trash.
I…hate…Freya trash. We spent a lot of time wiping on it the when we first tried her, weeks ago. It was terrible, and spawned my saying “TRASH IS SRS BZNS”. My camera bobs on the foliage, so without even thinking, I scroll in closer. The problem with scrolling in closer is that it keeps me from seeing storm clouds…and what happens when I can’t see storm clouds?
I did a lot of cussing, mostly aimed at myself. So we clear the trash, leaving blood smears along the way, and…then it’s technically time to end the raid. Fuck that! We decide to give Freya at least one attempt, and Mach makes some flippant remark about just having to one shot her.
…so we did.
Was it pretty? Nooo. We lost both Macharious (tank) and Shamina (…do I have to tell you?) but a battle rez and an ankh fixed that. For once, I didn’t die. I stayed disc for it, if you were wondering. :D
It was a good night, all considering, and Lyr now has another pair of pants (running joke: she gets more pants as gear than anything else, I swear).
I’m not going to talk too much about the patch just yet. Some things please me (universal tokens), and some things don’t (penance nerf), and all of these things are liable to change. Now if only that faction change was going through sooner so that I could steal Tart and Holy Dueg over to the proper faction…
Anyway, BoO wrested for itself a messy victory over Hodir last night. By messy I mean “after several wipes we took him down with 4 people alive, none of which were a tank”. We had mostly the same people this week so I’m not sure why we were struggling a bit more-really, the only difference I can think of was my spec. Is holy logically better for Hodir? Sure. But what’s better, a more seasoned disc priest or a holy priest who is still flailing around with CoH? My bubbles were amazing last minute saves and bought time for a proper heal. I’m going to have to continue to make adjustments in my healing style to cope.
I will also continue to make calf eyes at Blizzard for tri-specs. I miss shadow.
We decided to go play with Iron Council for the rest of our raid because we were silly and didn’t read up on the other watchers (we have tried Freya before but it was awhile ago). Iron Council proceeded to kick the shit out of us. Congrats, you have dethroned Ignis for my Most Hated Fight of Ulduar, guys. They just obliterate our tank…over, and over….it’s that Rune+Punch combo every. Fucking. Time.
Tonight I think I am going to RP, and play Sims. :P
A disc priest can raid heal a Hodir fight.
Is this at all sane or logical? Nooooo, but you don’t come here for sane and logical, now do you? Now, I wasn’t watching the healing meters on our attempts. It wasn’t until Zuki whispered me asking what I was doing that I bothered to flip open recount and take a peek.
This is what I was doing: OH GOD FREEZING BLOWS BUBBLE BUBBLE BUBBLE POH POH OH GOD BUBBLE FLASH POH OH GOD WHERE THE FUCK DID MY MANA GO AND WHY DID I EVER GET RID OF THE POH GLYPH OMG.
Here’s the World of Logs report, on our best Hodir attempt, for just the two raid healers. Can you guess when Frozen Blows was landing?!?!
It was one of those nights. It didn’t start out spectacular-we wiped on Ignis (wtf?) and then wiped on XT, a boss who hasn’t gotten the better of us since…well, we first started downing him. But then we smacked around the cat lady and it came to vote: Iron Council, or Hodir?
Atropus and I well-nigh demanded Hodir, so off we went to play in snow.
Where we promptly forgot all the tricks of the trash and wiped. GG, scrubs. After that we got to Hodir’s room and stared at a boss that some of us had seen oh, once before. We wiped the first couple of times with him at around 75%. Freezing blows were terrible, and I was starting to doubt our healing team-a holy pally with two broken wrists, myself with my disc…raid heals…and Zuki, our one and only cherished resto shaman. Not that I doubt our skill-just our particular composition. IE, my presence in the raid. I may have mad disc priest raid healing skills but let’s face it-on progression content it’s…ah, not ideal.
And then we tried again, and the sky opened up, beams of light shined on the raid, and angels sang…until we hit the enrage timer.
But going from in the 70s to 13%? Fuck yeah! There was excitement!
And then there was the 3% wipe. But still! Excitement! Progress on a boss that dropped t8! Holy shit! But god damn it it was after raid end time! Suck and fail!
Hodir will die next week though!
But then, of course, came the downer. My spec. Do you know how many times I have run Ulduar since we’ve started as a tank healer?
I’ve raided Ulduar as shadowmore times than I have needed to be disc. What we need, desperately-since we have two ace holy pallys-are raid heals. Most of our raid healers are trees. I love me some trees, but our one time running two trees was downright painful, and Zuki isn’t always available. Having another holy priest to throw into the mix would be useful.
So this morning I sobbed, flailed, threw a tantrum, and then ditched my shadow spec for holy. Soon I shall announce my failures to the world, much as Ron now does…
Despite the fact that I’ve been using my shadow spec more, for now I will run holy along disc, until such a time as I feel comfortable. Then I’ll…figure out what the hell I’m doing. The problem with not having a shadow spec is that for some fights, I’ve been told that some strats typically run two healers. With shadow, I can swap, no big deal. Sans that? We’re looking at swapping people out for DPS and we don’t HAVE spare DPS right now. We have more healers sign up than DPS. Some of our other healers have Ulduar capable DPS gear, and that solves that problem, but not all of them do.
Blah blah blah raid make up officer headache bullshit.
FAIL ANGEL. DO NOT WANT.
As a side note, when I was buying my new glyphs I realize that I was inadvertently feeding Kyr‘s AH experiment. Damn it, Kyky!
I’m still a disc priest, though. >:|
Our Ulduar10 group has been…wonky, of late. Key DPS is missing. Key healers are missing. Work, broken computers, school, and broken wrists have stolen people away. We went from running two 10s to only one, sometimes having to pug for even that.
Such is summer in the World of Warcraft.
One of the issues we’ve run into is that we’re missing our normal hunter, and thus…missing our usual source of replenishment. Our ret pally’s attendance has never been reliable, our other hunter is on vacation, we have no frost mages, and we have no raiding shadow priests.
That left your local dual disc/shadow priest. *raises hand*
The problem is that, since Ron is also only semi-available, that we were doing Ulduar 10 sans a disc priest. And we’ve…always had a disc priest, in addition to our holy pally. Apparently holy pally + tree + shaman, or holy pally + 2 trees just wasn’t working well for our particular group.
So they wanted me to switch disc and have a tree go DPS.
…did I mention that I was the only replenishment?
“So Amber, what is your thought about healing Ulduar without replenishment?”
Fuck you. It falls squarely into the “I might be able to do it but I sure as hell won’t enjoy it” category. But I can’t tell you for sure because we wiped a few times and then had to call it.
I remain stubbornly unconvinced that my raid damage reduction counters the lack of replen on a fight (Iron Council) that strained my mana WITH replen.
- Ignis trash will have a conference beforehand and pick one person to slaughter repeatedly. It WILL be a healer. Both fire tornados WILL chase you, WILL pin you agaisnt the wall/in a corner and kill you, or WILL throw you into adds. Sometimes, they will do both in the course of trash clearing even with reduced trash (as they did last night. To me. Of course).
- Ignis will put the one person capable of shattering his adds in his vibrating crotch pot 2-3 times in a row so that you have multiple adds up.
- When he’s not doing that, he puts a healer in the pot while simulatiously causing as much damage to the raid as is possible. The OT/shatter DPS will die or nearly die at this time.
- XT will put a light bomb on the priest just before a Tantrum, rendering PoH mildly useless.
- XT willl repeatedly put gravity bomb/light bomb on THE most inattentive melee DPS in the raid.
- A mushroom will not spawn anywhere near your healers.
- Kologarn will focus his eyebeams on your MT healer more so than anyone else.
- Several people, or at least your healers, will be feared into the Crazy Cat Lady’s void zones.
Highlights from BoO’s Ulduar last night:
2 10s were scheduled. We beat 9 people into going and pugged a healer. Sigh.
Best AFK of the night: “brb, my son shit on me”
Our pally tank was drunk. Our warrior tank started drinking. I wondered when Johnny Walker became a required raid addon and…sat there with my Amaretto Sour. It has just been one of those weeks, guys.
We only wiped in Ignis. Fuck you, Ignis. Monday will start with Iron Council and Crazy Cat Lady, presuming everyone’s not off doing goodness-knows-what.
Begin Rambling Here
First off, I have to call out for Steve being a scrub here-he didn’t research the Freya fight because he didn’t think we’d get past the Iron Council. We downed the Iron Council in only 3-4 attempts, one of which didn’t count because Josh and I DC’d moments after the pull. Granted, they apparently gave group 1 a bit of trouble before, but I still mock his lack of confidence.
Naturally this meant that we got to Freya’s room, started cluelessly pulling trash and…OW. Cue me putting in /rw, “Trash is srs bzns!” Yeah, no more blindly wandering into even trash…though nothing shall compare to C’thun trash. Ever. …I hope.
After we recovered from unsolicited attentions from over-sized flowers, we stared at the boss and went “Hmmm.” Then we went and looked for videos (my google-fu is better than Steve’s-I found the 10 man video!), and had three people describe the fight while showing obvious signs of having tuned out half of the previous commentary (“Did you talk about the Touch of Eonar?” “Yes, Josh. I said to kill the trees.”)
One day I should record me explaining a boss fight. “At that point, you’ll see these green trees spawn. You need to kill them OH MY GOD QUICKLY, because otherwise they’ll heal the boss and we’ll want to hunt you down and stab you in the face. So kill the trees, mmkay?” I don’t bother to get into technical terms like Touch of Eonar. Who the hell is going to know what that is?! I like to translate things into “raider speak”. Also, it amuses me.
Anyway. At some point, after wave after wave of flowery chaos, I lost it and just started going “badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM, MUSHROOM” to the complete bafflement of everyone in the raid. I can’t say how much progress we made-we only got a couple of attempts in, and it was rather chaotic. It can be summed up with “adds did not die like they were supposed to.” Hopefully a week to mull over things and do further research will be the magic trick, as it was with Iron Council. I really…don’t quite GET the Freya fight, perhaps because as a healer all I’m worried about is my little green bars and the location of the nearest mushroom.
If nothing else, I was there for one progression boss kill AND got a dagger out of it-woo! No more H Nexus mace!
Begin Somewhat Useful Observation Here
Freya aside, I enjoyedIron Council for reasons not related to shiny loot they handed over. For one thing, I had to dig out skills I remember perfecting back in the days of AQ40-mana management. Only back then I was chain drinking pots, and now I’m jugging ability cooldowns.
At 75%, use shadow fiend. When I dip back down again (“down” meaning sub-75%, not almost OOM…the intent is to prevent being OOM, after all) I scoot over to my other healers (assuming I’m not already near them) and use Hymn of Hope. If you have multiple priests, sharing your Hymn of Hope really helps.
And then…I wait. If I hit the 50% mark and my cooldowns aren’t up soon, I go for a mana pot. By the time my mana bar is dwindling into the “uh-oh!” stages, my shadow fiend should be back up. In the final “oh god oh god the boss is almost dead but my mana is almost gone!” part I usually have my Hymn back up.
I toss Pain Supression on the tank while channeling Hymn to try to prevent any unhappy “oh SHIT!” moments.
It’s really “fun” to be on a tank “and raid.” Mmhmm.