An Apparently Necessary Review of the Basics

Naxx25 last night made it apparent to me that a few still don’t know some of the Instancing Basics.  You should have learned some of these in 5 mans, but apparently some people were too busy face rolling.  So let’s review, shall we?

When you have aggro, run towards the tank, not away.
We can’t save you in time when you’re halfway across the room, okay? 
Never has this failure been more apparent than on Instructor.  For one thing, Mind Control breaks when the mob gets too far away from the priest, so running around screaming in the back of the room with the boss on you is fucking moronic.  I’m going to wait until you die and he chooses someone closer and less stupid before I pick him back up.

If you’re new to a raid, you might want to get on vent.
No really, it’s a good idea.  Few people enjoy typing out lengthy boss instructions.  We had someone who had never been to Naxx with us before, and we kept forgetting about him…and he wasn’t on vent to hear us asking why he was killing the instructor adds. 

If you see adds running towards the tanks, stop attacking until they have aggro.
Whether the tank LoS/range pulled in a 5 man or a pat just wandered too close in a raid, if you see new friends coming to play, cool it on the AoE.  There’s a reason why my mind-sear happy ass didn’t die as much as our mages and warlocks did on trash.  I was keeping an eye on the mobs so that I knew when Mind Sear reached uselessness (ie, one mob left), and quit casting when I saw more death knights charging us en masse. 

And these are thanks to a HoS run on my warrior:

Hunters: Don’t bring a pet more than one or two levels lower than you to an instance. 
Because a level 73 turtle in a 77 instance will cause your warrior tank to have heart attacks every time he pulls adds.  And he will.  Oh yes, he will.

If your tank is bypassing adds, you might want to leave them alone, rather than…MDing them to the warrior whilst in the middle of another pull.
8 mobs are not better than 4.  No, really, they’re not.

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  1. #1 by Mikata on August 24, 2009 - 1:15 pm

    “Amber… how are you doing 10k DPS!?”


  2. #2 by Kallo on August 24, 2009 - 1:49 pm

    <3 Mind Sear is the win. It's about the only spell that when Reflected doesn't punish the Priest. =D

  3. #3 by Ron on August 24, 2009 - 6:41 pm

    Unless we’re wiping, I welcome silly DPS as a healer. It keeps my job more interesting when they’re trying to get themselves killed and I don’t allow it. It also lowers stress and keeps a smile on my face :)

  4. #4 by Prot on August 24, 2009 - 11:43 pm

    No one ever runs to the tanks. Are tanks smelly? Are tanks mean tempered? (probably) Do you think you can do a better job tanking than the one in heavy plate armor, oh you of the tissue paper?

    I have posted to my guild time and again to run to the tanks, and every time it is like the tank is suddenly invisible, or they are afraid we will get MC’d and kill them or something.

  5. #5 by HoHo on August 25, 2009 - 1:54 am

    “There’s a reason why my mind-sear happy ass didn’t die as much as our mages and warlocks did on trash”

    fade->sear. No need to worry about agro for the next 10s, though do pray that tanks have got enough threat on them in that 10s, if not then run to tank and disperse while hoping for the best!

  6. #6 by Mikata on August 25, 2009 - 8:02 am

    Gosh people… what is WRONG with you.

    Don’t you know that the tanks are supposed to chase down the DPS and get blamed for wipes!! Geeze… DPS run towards the tanks?? Hahahaha…. blasphemy. Get yourselves together….

  7. #7 by Ridjeckgron on August 25, 2009 - 9:23 am

    Just a point of fact: despite common misconceptions, a pet 4 levels different from the tank will not pull adds from across the instance. I expect you were using some hyperbole for effect, but the reality is that pets have a FAR lower aggro radius than a PC does. Your point might have been better made if you focused on the etiquette of bringing a low level pet into an instance (always ask before you do, keep it on passive, disable any aggro generating abilities, etc.), rather than the tired old anecdote “that hunters pet pulled all the adds in UBRS!”. And just to get this in – this is not a lack of humor (since we all love huntard stories), but a desire to kill the sterotype when it’s built on incorrect information. The hunter in question probably had his pet on something other than passive, or directed it to the mobs as opposed to it being a passive aggro pull.

  8. #8 by Ambrosyne on August 25, 2009 - 10:46 am

    @Ridjeckgron – Where did I say that he pulled adds from across the instance? What the silly 73 turtle did do, however, is pull a few additional pats when I was unable to suffeciently shift groups of mobs back because casters are dicks that way. It was part hunter sillyness (a 73 TURTLE in an instance, really?) and part LOLRUSTYFAILTANK. Now the hunter was, indeed, being otherwise foolish (see: statement about MDing a group I intended to skip to me)…but most of the time HE was the one blaming adds on his pet. I was too busy panicing to notice what exactly had pulled the adds, but there was a lot of dead turtle that run.

    But I almost always play off stereotypes for humor…see my friday flowcarts for terribad examples. I break huntard stereotypes by not playing one.

  9. #9 by Kiramaren on August 25, 2009 - 11:33 am

    Why oh why cant the dps focus off me for my target when we are pulling small grps SKULL IS MARKED FOR A REASON!!1!1! /cry. I deal some pretty awesome threat (I geared that way) but when its 10mobs+ they are a little harder to grab them all. TAB TAB TAB… but if and when a dps gets aggro for the love of all that is good in the world (i.e. cute puppies) run towards my bear butt! I shall save you! Unless you do it repeatedly because you arent managing your aggro (I was a hunter as my main until recently, i know the dps role and all about MDs and managing your aggro)but if you keep doing it I will conviently froget where my growl button is a few times and LET YOU DIE!

    Mean? maybe…
    Will they learn? hopefully?!
    or they may drop grp and they arent my problem anymore :D

    ~Rage filled Bear ;)

  10. #10 by Ambrosyne on August 25, 2009 - 11:51 am

    @Kiramaren – Cranky Tanks and Angry Healers work SO WELL together when it comes to educating bad DPS. ;)

  11. #11 by candy on August 25, 2009 - 8:27 pm

    I think everyone should be on Vent for raids. Period. And the new folks need to **ASK** what they need to do/watch out for on each boss. GRRRRRRR!

  12. #12 by Tim Lurke on August 26, 2009 - 12:41 pm

    Your site is worth beeing in the top cause it contains really amazing information.Can’t wait to see your next posting.

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